Weren't Adam and Eve angelic in the Garden?
That's totally unscriptural. There's the human kingdom, angel kingdom and God kingdom. Scripture reveals they were all too human - nephesh in Hebrew - mortal, living creatures that could and did die, failing the opportunity to be given God-life by the Holy Spirit.
...Well, if they didn't eat of the fruit, they wouldn't taste death. This shows that if they didn't eat of it, they would've continued to be immortal like God.
No, they were totally mortal, flesh and blood, from the dust and returned to the dust - nothing divine or immortal about them whatsoever IF you believe the Bible is the Word of God, which I do.
Adam and Eve were given time to make up their minds, to choose life or choose death - to become immortal and divine or return to dust as if they had never existed. God refused to permit them to become immortal (they were not already immortal) in sin and drove them from the Garden, deported them for their sins. Why offer eternal life if they already had it?
As I understand, Adam and Eve, in their angelic-like state, were extremly powerful.The angels were scared of them. I also have heard it said that because of this creation, Satan was relegated to a inferior position which began his jealousy.
They were mere mortals with an incredible human potential to become divine. They were beneath the angels but had the opportunity to transcend the angelic plane to the Godhead level.
Jesus was the Second Adam. It clearly states the first Adam was corruptible, flesh and blood, mortal. Why don't you believe the Word of God? Yet Jesus, the Second Adam, is divine, incorruptible and immortal. We can become like Jesus the firstborn (by a resurrection from the dead and glorified) of many brethren.
Adam and Eve obviously wanted to return to their former state and enter Eden.
Nothing had changed in the composition of Adam and Eve, mere mortals, but their character - the change was all in their minds.
1 Corinthians 15:45-57
45So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" (nephesh/living creature); the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.
46The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual.
47The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.
48As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven.
49And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we bear the likeness of the man from heaven.
50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed—
52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.
54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."
55"Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"
56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
This clearly shows Adam was flesh and blood, mortal, corruptible and we're just like him - but the good news is we can become exactly like the Second Adam and be transformed at the Resurrection into brilliant God-beings, composed of divine nature and holy composition. Adam and Eve were never anything but what they always were: nephesh/living creature, souls that lived, sinned and died.
But Scripture clearly reveals we're after the Godkind - not after the angels in the First Resurrection.
...I think you're being a bit picky with words.
More like careful or faithful since "if they speak not according to this Word, there is no light in them" (Isaiah 8:20). If anything contradicts the Scriptures it's of the serpent and I won't give him the time of day and neither should you, no matter how appealing he might make some other books appear and entice you to take of them and get confused, yet thinking you're being enlightened. "We're not ignorant of his devices."
The Scriptures say Jesus was born again by the Resurrection from the dead, and it says He was the Firstborn of many brethren and shall change our vile bodies that they may be fashioned just like His - not like the angels who will be under us and managed by us in the World Tomorrow. True Christians are God-Beings in the making!
...granted but you don't know exactly how all the angels look or exactly how Jesus looks. You don't know their similarities nor their obvious differences. You're just playing with words again.
No, you're playing with fire trying to lower man transformed into God to an angelic level. Satan hates our incredible human potential to bypass him and become God-beings in righteousness.
Even as we have been fully mortal and human like Adam, we shall be fully divine and holy Spirit like Christ the Second Adam, being born again into the literal Kingdom-Family of God. How Satan is insanely jealous of this fact!
...This doesn't negate the fact that Eden is a type per say of Heaven, and Adam and Eve wanted to and did return back to Eden (in otherwords Heaven).
Eden is only a type of HEAVEN ON EARTH or don't you believe Jesus who said "the meek shall inherit the Earth" and that the Heavenly City New Jerusalem will be established ON EARTH? Adam and Eve are dead and buried and are not in Heaven (John 3:13).
They obtained their angelic-like, God-like bodies again in paradise through the acts of Jesus.
That's a religious lie. They never had anything but mortal, flesh and blood bodies. SATAN FELL - NOT MANKIND! Man is presently under the angel's level, as Hebrews clearly reveals - but we have the incredible God-given potential to literally become born again into the God Kingdom-Family.
Hebrews 1:4-6
4So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
5For to which of the angels did God ever say,
"You are my Son; today I have become your Father"? Or again,
"I will be his Father,and he will be my Son"?
6And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
"Let all God's angels worship him."
Hebrews 2:5-18
5It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking.
6But there is a place where someone has testified:
"What is man that you are mindful of him,
the son of man that you care for him?
7You made him a little lower than the angels;
you crowned him with glory and honor
8and put everything under his feet? In putting everything under him, God left nothing that is not subject to him. Yet at present we do not see everything subject to him.
9But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.
10In bringing many sons to glory, it was fitting that God, for whom and through whom everything exists, should make the author of their salvation perfect through suffering.
11Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are
of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers.
12He says,
"I will declare you
in the presence of the congregation I will sing your praises."
13And again,
"I will put my trust in him." And again he says,
"Here am I, and the children God has given me."
14Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity (the exact same humanity Adam had) so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil—
15and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death.
16For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants.
17For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.
18Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
Jesus became like the First Adam - totally human, flesh and blood - nothing angelic about Him! However, He had the divine nature that we can partake of now and be born again by the Spirit at the First Resurrection and become totally like Him - the Second Adam - DIVINE - not like something you imagine falsely in the Garden before the sin - something much better!
You really need read the Books of Eden, but somehow I think you won't.
The Lord rebuke you Satan! I won't listen to the serpent who contradicts the Word of God. You really need to burn your lying Books of Gehenna - they're not of Eden.
The Bible reveals man is created in the image of God and at the resurrection will be transformed into the brilliant image of Jesus Christ, the Second Adam, holy and divine, literal members of the God Kingdom-Family!
David Ben-Ariel is a Christian-Zionist writer and author of Beyond Babylon: Europe's Rise and Fall. With a focus on the Middle East and Jerusalem, his analytical articles help others improve their understanding of that troubled region. Check out the Beyond Babylon blog.
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